英語でしゃべらナイト 第161回 2007/03/02 「世界のジョークで切る！しゃべらナイト的“新日本人論”」 デーブ・スペクター 野内良三 小池良介
But can it save the world tonight Mr humer himself passes judgment on this [Applause] show good one Dave of course it’s just flattery Dave Spectre a Japanese comedian B his Mark in New York for the 21st century Cosmopolitan Night American Dave Spectre this TV personality is regular on many shows and a world class producer a Japan of fall since he was a boy Dave became a Japan otaku in 1983 he was hired as an ABC producer in Japan and so began his unexpected reign as the prince of Puns you never know what’s going to make someone laugh [Laughter] [Applause] zoto Mastery demands daily study Dave reveals something that has long troubled him Okay well here’s a game for all you Global Jokers A luxury cruise ship begins to sink the captain wants everyone to jump into the sea he uses different words for each nationality to Americans he says if you jump you will be a hero the Americans jump to English he says if you are a gentleman you will jump and they jump to
Germans he says jumping is the rule of the ship they obey the rule and jump to Italians he says if you jump women will love you they jump to French people he says don’t jump and to Japanese he says for jump or you I will give you holidays cruise ship
B ordered you to jump if you jump you can eat a lot of fish right foreigners know Japanese like to eat raw Fish everyone else is jumping joke number two how do you make a Japanese person laugh on Monday you have five five days before weekend did you see the short last [Laughter] night so what’s the world joke on the Japanese tell him a joke on Friday take an objective look at the Target but the real art is in the telling here’s a TV program that is hugely popular in the [Applause] UK the BBC has been broadcasting this comedy show for 16 years have I got news for you politicians two teams answer a quiz based on current affairs did you go they compete for audience laughs with witty cynical answers about SCH why we ask this tuned in English gentleman has
Been a regular on the show since it began Ian Hoff 46 his day job is editor of a popular magazine that will be 46th this year private eye it’s one of the biggest humor magazines in England a satirical twist is added to the news to create some very British
Tumor remember when a former Russian officer was poisoned in London President Putin asks what’s your poison Squire now let’s see the treatment President Bush gets looking at a map of America he asks and where is America on here its idea has always been to um uh primarily to amuse its readers by
Laughing um at the government and laughing at those in power over us the magazine weapons grade cynicism appeals to readers what do londoners think of it it’s being able to insult people I think and U I think English people are quite able to take that I think it’s probably the
Straightforwardness that you kind of know what’s going on if you kind of delude yourself watching the real music and it’s quite nice to get you the heart with that sometimes this L Mastery of irony generates humor what exactly makes the British laugh British hum likes failure and it likes criticism and it’s
A it’s a terrific corrective we’ve got a long history of it we did things about how awful the man up the street was you know and that’s what keeps Britain going is our ability to sort of put the boot in um to the people around us across the Atlantic the sense of
Humor is different Hello free papers are handed out during the morning commute they’re pretty popular these days in the Battle of tickle new New York’s Funny Bone the competition is serious one paper that’s doing very well is the onion America’s Finest news source No Lack of confidence
Here take this headline for example Bush urges Nation to be quiet for a minute while he tries to think a Japanese toy maker introduces a divorce character of course no these are genuine news stories cuz it makes me smile makes me laugh I see the sense of humor instead
Of um everything being so negative oh yeah yeah yeah first I kind of read it and I was like they can’t be serious but then yeah more you read you know it’s a joke it has to be here’s the editorial Department of this nothing but lies newspaper there were only a handful of
People when the paper started up in 1988 now this department has a staff of around 50 with an average age of 28 every Tuesday at 10:00 a.m. there’s a headline meeting to discuss topics for the audition in 2 weeks time great headlines are a must but there are over 100 to choose from today they discuss this a firefighter a genuine New York hero furtively darling for
Help um you just talk about the and like he’s a stupid dog just like somehow took the took theer must have just been Instinct yeah how how he was trained to dial 911 obviously he really loves his uh family his family or yeah kind of looked at the phone for for a few
Seconds and like he was puzzling it out it it’s definitely a really funny concept I’m just like they brainstormed the headline creating content for the article that’s how the onion Works here’s another one Bush offers body armor to First 1,000 troops who en list for Iraq New Orleans residents end calls for rebuilding we’re used to it now the onion has 1 million readers in the US but what is the editorial policy okay part of the joke is the the specific the specific event we’re making the joke about and the other part of it
Is is the the layer of sort of realism we we put over it we treat the stories as if they come as if they’re coming from a real news source and that helps the jokes come out a little bit more I like sometimes fiction communicates better than the truth this
Waiting G would pay off back in the studio a wh of es no a professor at Kai GAA University Dr noi specializes in French literature he began collecting jokes to add spice to his lessons and for the last 30 years he has been bringing the world’s jokes to Japan so is a joke maybe a way to look at at reality from a different angle time to hone our humor to Global standards it’s Dr noi’s original get a sense of humor test don’t Sunday evening father asks his five children a question this week who obeyed mommy perfectly the five children say
Together that’s all s father DAV yeah you did you did you did say [Applause] you h no joke for Matsumoto an artist paints only Landscapes he has asked a question why don’t you paint people he answers because uh people will get angry if I paint them it would irritate their
Skin the answer Landscapes don’t Complain it seems jokes offer an insight into the teller’s personality The superpower rest free France AR and satire Abound now a French TV show that’s a Smash Hit it’s a puppet show that parodies the news programs on other networks crazy Tales of politicians sports stars and other celebrities are presented as realistic Stories the show has been running for 18 years and has devoted fans of all Agents it’s broadcast from this studio there are 300 puppets of world famous figures stored here for example come on Yo the French President jock sherro French soccer hero zon even US Secretary of State condalisa rice these lifelike puppets make a key contribution to the show the puppets closely resemble the
Originals every expression and movement is made as real as possible each puppet is controlled by two people one for the face and one for the hands the Target today is Nicholas sarosi a strong candidate to be French president in 2007 a possible future leader of France but he gets no respect from this
Show These lovable puppets can express every aspect of human nature but what is the program’s aim fiction inspired by the truth all people however powerful are human and thus imperfect Japanese 2 are full of contradictions but jokes are unfamiliar territory is the language to blame I have a joke
Japanese don’t stop things to tell a joke ice [Laughter] breaker oh your that’s pretty py New York New York a center of global Entertainment people flock to Broadway for the loudest laughs every night lines form outside comedy Clubs many famous actors began their career as standup comedians Woody Allen Eddie Murphy whoopy Goldberg and here’s another comedian dreaming of future success yay meet Rio this Japanese comedian can get a laugh with a single word my name is Rio yeah I have a original Japanese name that’s a
Different my Japanese name is Rio to very nice to see you guys hold on I have a last name too Yeah 38 was born in II prefecture I get no as a student he was Japan’s number two Ballroom dancer at 25 he went to LA hoping to become world number one but at 30 he retired and moved to New York to broaden his Horizons his life took a big turn when
He tried out a joke on a class of budding Comedians put the but the language barrier cast a big Shadow a friend recorded English sentences for him he listened and repeated them every day in New York the competition is fierce what material could he use to fight his way to the top Just outside of Manhattan K shes an apartment with an indan roommate ideas for jokes literally litter the room completed gags are stuck to the wall and Learn by heart everything he experiences as a Japanese living in New York is raw material those years of hell as an apprentice are behind him at
Last drunk American people dreams fight for survival every evening as he hurries to his Comedy Club K is transformed into comedian Rio now he even has his own manager Linda when she first saw him four years ago struggling on his own she saw raw potential what makes him so funny is that he’s delivering these mainstream you know material with his broken English and and it makes it that much funny think go
Swim got to do It once again Rio prepares to face the world’s toughest crowd I’ve been there look at beautiful woman beautiful friend of mine go hey R I know you like her you know what she going to do is a wink at her here we go wink I’m an
Asian what kind of advice is that look at my eye do you think I can wink no my eyes like open or closes doesn’t look much different I did the wink first time in my life my wings right I’m wingking at you I try every single different wink I
Figure the best wink the Asian guy can do is like hey you’re beautiful he was great the Winking thing I just wish I could get that down because that was the best I thought it was New York based but it was I thought it was funny I enjoyed it Japanese comedian
Rio Rio offers New Yorkers a glimpse of an America they may never see [Applause] way to go Rio change the world’s view of Japan through laughter back to Dave Spectre the messenger of Mirth what do his entertainment experience taught him about Life litm test Americans teaching the way of Japanese comedy is this internationalization jokes are the ultimate crosscultural communication tool finally a message in English from this prominent producer and Global laughter Master you know in English this time please well if you want to be funny and humorous in English don’t use me as an example jokes bring us together as fellow human beings maybe laughter really can save the Worlding Up For
世界のジョーク大特集。ダジャレ王（？）のデーブ・スペクターをゲストに、さまざまな国のジョーク感覚を紹介。ニューヨークで大ウケのフリーペーパーのウリは、全部の記事がうそであること。イギリスやフランスで人気のテレビ番組は政治家や著名人をジョークで風刺。世界でウケる日本人をネタにしたジョークの内容とは？ またＮＹの厳しいショービズ界で人気の日本人スタンダップコメディアン、ＲＩＯのドキュメントも紹介する。
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